Sunday, February 24, 2008

How do I match the tune with what I want to talk about?


Here's a question from Matt: (this is a condensed versions of the question).

I make melodies on my guitar, and then I try to add lyrics, but for some reason, it is hard to match the tune with what I want to talk about, if you understand. Any tips?

Thanks for the question Matt.

What most people in this predicament fail to realise (and I too am a victim) is that writing melodies first and then writing lyrics second is probably the more difficult route. Even though in my songwriting tips I do state that you should at least get down SOMETHING to start off with, I'm also going to say that starting off with writing melodies first means you may suffer with matching your lyrics to your tune.

Try to write the words first...

This isn't the case for everybody, but for those who are in this boat, I'd advise you to at least try to write the lyrics first - and then writing the melody after those lyrics. I think you may be pleasantly surprised. I know I was.

Now in the beginning, when you try and write lyrics first, you'll probably find it quite difficult. This isn't because you're a bad lyricist... but more because by default your brain is probably thinking up a melody simultaneously. This is especially common for those of us who are musicians first. We tend to think in terms of melodies, chords and even rhythm and orchestration. Lyrics tend to flow later. This is totally natural.

For this very reason it's important for us to at least TRY write the lyrics first. You may even find that when you try this approach that the songwriting process may double in speed.

When you've gotten used to this process, you can try to mix and match. Things should flow a lot easier after that.

Find a lyrical co-writer...

Another (popular) approach is to find a co-writer. Somebody who writes the lyrics. Think of Elton John and his songwriting partner Bernie Taupin. They are one of the most successful songwriting duo's the history of popular music ...and their methods are very simple. Bernie writes the lyrics - then he send the words to Elton, who then writes the melodies and chords to them. It's simple and it works like a charm. :-) They don't even write in the same room!

Don't let ego get the best of you...

I know that there are some songwriters out there who have a massive ego problem. They won't collaborate with anyone because they think they will 'steal their ideas' or maybe they don't want to 'share the credit' with anyone. Let me tell you first hand that with this kind of attitude it will be hard to totally maximise you're potential as a writer.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather write a great song with a co-writer than a crappy one by myself. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that you shouldn't improve yourself as a songwriter and that finding someone with solve all your songwriting troubles. What I AM saying, is that finding a co-writer who compliments you're talents (ie. fills in the missing pieces) can do wonders for your songs.

Don't let ego stop you in your tracks. It's not worth it.

Shamir

7 comments:

Masked boy said...

Haha Shamir this blog helps the exact opposite of my problem :D If I write lyrics first, I can't find a melody, but if i do a melody first, i can then write lyrics. :D

Anonymous said...

Matt, I share in the way of thinking that it should be the lyrics written 1st! WHY? OK, to make it simple, 1st, you have to have some basic idea of what you are going to say! Then, IF you are a musician, or even if you're not, the words will kinda sing themselves! Not great at writing? That;s cool - co-write with someone who is! I do BOTH, & would be glad to 'offer' my help! 50/50 is the usual way to split - 50% of something is a LOT better than 100% of NOTHING! IF I can help e-mail me at raywithrow@yahoo.com Ray, President of No Creek Music (ASCAP)

Anonymous said...

A good site is http://www.hotfrets.com/songanator.asp if you want to just have a tune to play hopefully that helped anyone?

Unknown said...

Most of my "best" songs (IMHO) start with one phrase that comes pre-packaged with a rhythm / groove; and possibly also a melody - or I just try different melodies to match the phrase. What I mean is, I will hear or read or think of a phrase whose words already have a natural rhythmic quality to them, so they automatically seem to suggest what the groove of the song will be, and then work from there. Often this phrase ends up being the hook of the song.

S.I. Oakes said...

I also encounter the problem of thinking about the melodies even when I'm jotting down the lyrics... it's a bit hard for me to push it out of my brain, but I find that when I concentrate solely on the lyrics, I come up with much more interesting imagery and/or themes in my songs.

Good article, Shamir.

AndyBondi said...

Matt, I usually write the music first and then the lyrics.
To start writing the lyrics I usually sing along to the music. I sing anything that comes into my head. Shamir and Nadir talked about doing this in the songwriting recordings.
I sing anything and keep changing the words usually still rhyming with what I sang before. Sometimes I change the rhyme on purpose if I have been singing the same rhyme for a while and feel I have come to a dead end.
After a while and let me say this could take a few minutes, a few hours, a few days, a few weeks or even a few months (obviously I stop to eat, sleep, work, etc) I come up with a phrase that sounds good and interesting. This phrase ends up being the hook and triggers the subject of the song. When I have the subject for the song I then start mapping out my ideas for what each verse will be about.

I have found this method takes my lyrical ideas in directions I never thought of before.
Also, I usually do a lot of this on my way to and from work on the train which turns into what I think of as wasted time into something worthwhile and enjoyable. Of course I don’t sing out loud and I just keep it in my head.

From some of the other comments in this blog I was wondering if you have an idea for lyrics first and then try to fit the ideas or even completed lyrics to the music. The method I described above isn't very good for fitting completed lyrics to music. If you find yourself in this situation I suggest you put those lyrics aside (you WILL use them later) and try approaching the song without any preconceived idea of what the lyrics will be about.

Anyway hope this helps.

Andrew

Anonymous said...

the way i do it is i just get this surge of inspiration...so anywhere i am i usually carry something i can write with, it sounds silly but even talking to someone they could say something and it triggers me to something else. I also find it WAY easier to write about personal experiences then making something up and i think the song itself means a lot more if it was from something personal...you can push inspiration outta you, you have to let it come out when its ready other wise itll most probably be crappy.lol