Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Q&A: Troubles with creating music and improvisation...


Hey people. First off, thanks for all the questions coming in. I'm trying to answer as many as I humanly can, but there does come a point where I just gotta leave my computer screen and grab some sleep!

Anyway. Moving on... here's an email I received recently:

Shamir,

I am an aspiring singer/songwriter/guitarist. Your emails have been extremely helpful as far as lyrics go, unfortunately, lyrics are not something I really have trouble with. It's the music i have trouble with. In particular writing music for lyrics that are finished. Scales and keys are simple solutions, however i was wondering if you had any other advice. Also, i have a maddening trouble creating musical harmonies. I can write a riff with the best of them, but writing something to play along with that riff, or improvising to someone else playing is almost impossible for me.

I know your probably a busy person who receives many emails, but i would very much appreciate your help with this.


Hey man, I really appreciate the compliment.

Listen, you're not alone in this one. LOTS of people suffer the same thing.

Here's the thing. Have you built up a song library in your head? If not, build one from today onwards.

Why? Because searching for tunes and chord sequences will be an absolute cinch when you already have a few hundred floating around in your head from songs you have already learnt and played.

And yes, I'm talking about OTHER people's songs. Whatever style you're into, you should learn a new song from that genre EVERY WEEK. I'll say it again, learn one NEW song from the style that you love every week.

Example:

You prefer Rock? >> Learn how to play and sing songs from Aerosmith, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Green Day, Linkin Park, etc.

You like folk? >> Learn how to play and sing songs from Bob Dylan, Fairport Convention, Neil Young, etc

You prefer pop? >> Learn how to play and sing songs from Prince, Elton John, Phil Collins, Beatles, etc

You prefer R&B? >> Learn how to play and sing song by Stevie Wonder, Boyz II Men, Erykah Badu, etc.

Please don't scold me over the definitions for these artists above... lol. For me , it's not even about style and genre. It's more about what you like, and then learning it (on the piano in my case) and then trying to sing it.

This does two things. One, the chord progressions of other artist and groups get burnt in my memory. Secondly, the melodies are subconciensly recorded in my brain too. So it serves a dual purpose.

Actually, I'll add a third to that list. You generally become a more competent musician! :-)

This all might sound like something you've heard before. Maybe you're reading this thinking "erm, yeah whatever". But *I* can tell you from first hand experience that it WORKS.

When you are already familiar with chords and melodies of other songs, then you have more chance of ACCESSING that information when you in a creative mode. Make sense?

So if you haven't built up a song library, start today. Learn a new song a week. You'll be surprised at the results.

For those who don't play instruments, you can STILL do this by learning other people's lyrics and melodies.

I know this wasn't the step-by-step answer that some of you are looking for... but songwriting isn't like maths. It's MUCH more intuitive. It's a creative process.

I'll finish off by saying this... and I hope you've made it this far because what I'm about to say is one of the MOST important things I've ever said about songwriting....

When you write something, you should NEVER dismiss it. Even if you think it's a crappy idea. You can edit it, change it, play with it. But never dismiss it. This is the number one problem with songwriters today (and I'm no different either).

Whenever you say "I can't write lyrics" or "I can't write chords"... what you're really saying is "it sounds to crap to even consider". Think about that for a minute.

If we took the time and improved on what we have, then maybe we won't be starting from scratch every 5 seconds?

:-)

Shamir


22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the blog -- these are very good ideas. I know for me listening to an entire album of great new songs does a lot for inspiring my creativity. My head just swims with new ideas: I'm basically in a tizzy. Keep up the good blogging! --Annie.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Shamir on this! EVERY musician needs to keep up with the trends, & what better way than to learn OTHER people's stuff! Even if all you have is a cassette recorder or boom box, record the 'tune' for future reference! No, you can't use THEIR 'arrangement' of the song, BUT you can make your OWN from it! IF music is NOT your strong point, do what I do: collaborate with someone who is strong in the music part! Works for me! Ray Withrow, President of No Creek Music (ASCAP)

Anonymous said...

I think you are right on. Great advice. Big D

Anonymous said...

Hey thanx for this article I've had the same problem for the longest time so this will really help me! Thanx for the advice!!

Midiman said...

Wow! Thanks Shamir! This was off the chain advice! I find myself stuck most off the time trying to get flowing or going with the software,ex.Sonar, Ableton live..etc..I always end up discouraged or lose motivation entirely. I will definitely try this approach!

Anonymous said...

Hey

Yeah, that perfectly describes the problem I've been having, but I'll try to use this tip ^^ Since I've been receiving this mails from you, my work has gone from *[i]Oh god please help me, a pineapple can write a better song*[/i] to *[i]Not what I'd normally listen to, but seems allright*[/i]

So, thanks and keep up the good work and maybe my work will even improve to *[i]Hell yeah, this is what I call a good song[/i]* 'cause I couldn't have done it without your help =]

Regards,
Renée

btw; It's Linkin Park, not Linken Park

Anonymous said...

Some good words there Shamir.

Some of my best tunes (well that's in my opinion anyway haha) have come when spending a morning at work with the radio going in the background. My mind seems to absorb the bits in each song that ‘do it’ for me >that’s the song structures or the lyrical journeys that I take a fancy to. And then I find the ideas birth themselves out of there.

And if I could add to the good note about the ‘not throwing out your ideas thing’, I would go one step further to suggest that you also should record in some form every idea that you do come up with.

It doesn’t matter if it sounds just like the other song you heard, just mark it down as such and then you can come back to it and analyse that person’s song and find out what it was you liked about the way it was done.

Once you have a good archive of “ideas” you can now refer back to this every time you have a writer’s block, or it could be your constant source for everyday song writing!
Now get going!
All the best,

John from NZ

Anonymous said...

Hello. I need help with writing music lyrics, and the melody. Could you please help me.

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Anonymous said...

listen to this men he knows what he talking about. IT'S nice when you read these blogs and connect and understand, I like many different styles genres, I try to learn many different styles. I'M a singer so I sing and learn ,lyric and melodies and it works. I'M Karaoke singer/host
this a great way of learning songs. I Written a few good songs I did this because of my library of songs i have built up over the years. learn other people songs.

Anonymous said...

i been really inspire to keep writing
and its hard for me to be inspire and that saying something :)
mick

Anonymous said...

As far as trouble writing music and then the lyrics you have to look at what mood your music is in. Is the mood sad?(minor chords) then the song could be about a breakup or other sad subjects etc... Is the mood happy?(upbeat and positive)Then the song could be about a great love etc... In other words the mood of your lyrics should fit the style or mood of the music.

Anonymous said...

Great advice!
This has really helped me find music to put to lyrics i have written!
Thanks.

Fanch said...

Thanks for your ideas Shamir, I'm sure it'll help many people :-).

Bye, see ya soon

JMAC said...

Thanks Shamir for your emails - Anything on writers block? John

Anonymous said...

It was putted an emphasis on a very important aspect, I believe...memorization. From my experience I can tell that Shamir was very right to advise us to memorize every week a NEW SONG. It is a very simple idea, we would suppose but it is enclosing a deep truth and a secret key to imporvization and certainty when you are on a stage. If you memorized GOOD a piece, and you know it by heart, you made the most important step...a step that I often ignored. If this first step is ignored , you will not be able in the future or on the stage to improvise...cause is like the process we have all been through, before speaking...we momorized so many conversations, that we can't even imagine...think about that, and only afterwards we, as a child began to speak, more and more fluently.
Thank you so much for giving us so many ideas and help us in our continues learning.

Anonymous said...

I also agree with Shamir about studying different songs. I write a fair amount of music (for a Children's Chorus I started in Boston, MA in USA). The last song I wrote, had the same chord progression as "Message in a Bottle" by Sting. I discovered this later but I'm sure it wasn't a coincidence. That chord progression was lodged in my brain somewhere!
When I write music, I start with a chord progression that I come up with just by sitting at the piano and playing. From that chord progression, I will just sing different riffs while I play. I am not listening or judging or deciding anything. Just purely having fun and improvising freely on the chords with my voice. Eventually, a "hook" comes out of it. I will start repeating a melody that grabs me and I'll just keep playing with it and playing with it. The more I play with it, the more ideas I come up with. That gives me the central hook of the song. It's only afterwards that I write the lyrics.
Hope this helps. And heh, come visit my website, EasyPianoStyles.com for more info about playing popular piano the non-traditional way! -Debbie from Boston.

Anonymous said...

hey sharmir, thanks for all the tips that you've given. :)

Anonymous said...

Thank you for songwriting tips. I'm just starting to write songs. You are an inspiration.

Anonymous said...

Hi Shamir!
Thanks for your helpful and always useful tips. This one sounds obvious but most of us did not even think about it! Great advice.
Mattie.

Anonymous said...

thankx, Shamir your mails are really getting me ahead with my songwriting skills. Ihave always been trying to write songs and finally wrote one but i am finding problems on writing the bridge and the chorus of my songs.Amd please tell me how to differentiate between different types of songs like rock country pop etc.

trevorhoen said...

Shamir,
I just love how amazing you are with words. You help me so much with all the advise I'll ever need for songwriting. I consider you my songwriting peer. Your SO talented. I find all of your tip's very use ful. I was just wondering though, um could we maybe see a song you written before? Just for reference? Thanks, it would mean so much to me if you did,
your student,
~TREVOR~
LOL